GETTING MORE TALE #712: Does Paul Stanley Get Enough Credit for Writing Killer Riffs?
Think for a moment about the greatest guitar riffs of all time. “Smoke on the Water”, “You Really Got Me”, “Iron Man”, and “Whole Lotta Love” might make your own personal favourites. Indeed, these songs usually show up on any decent list of great rock riffs. Planet Rock did a dubious list in 2017, featuring the classics and questionable choices like The Darkness. It also featured a number of hot licks by Hendrix, Ozzy, and Van Halen. The usual suspects. They do get points for including Budgie’s “Breadfan”.
I once read a quote by a guitar player* who said he hated Jimmy Page because “He already wrote all the greatest riffs, and I’m jealous.” Tony Iommi, Ritchie Blackmore, the Young brothers and even the young fellas from Metallica are often credited as the greatest riffmasters in rock. They’ve all done their part to enrich our lives with memorable, chunky and headbangin’ guitar riffs. But so have others.
Consider Kiss’ Paul Stanley. Once upon a time, the singer was considered one of the best with very few rivals. You’d often see his name on singers’ lists with guys like Freddie Mercury and Ronnie James Dio. Paul must, absolutely, be considered one of the greatest frontmen in history. That is hard to dispute. On the other hand, few give him credit for his guitar.
“I’m no slouch,” said Paul of his guitar playing. He’s even responsible for some Kiss solos. But as a riff writer? We rarely think of Stanley, yet behold the songs! Looking only at tracks with lone Paul Stanley writing credits, the list of monster riffs is impressive.
- “Black Diamond”
- “Hotter Than Hell”
- “C’mon and Love Me”
- “Rock Bottom”
- “God of Thunder”
- “I Stole Your Love”
- “Love Gun”
- “Tonight You Belong To Me”
- “Magic Touch”
Paul had some pretty awesome riffs on co-written songs like “Mr. Speed”, “Makin’ Love” and “Creatures of the Night”, but since other writers may have contributed, we’ll exclude those. This list also doesn’t include his catchy acoustic riffs like “Hard Luck Woman”, or lesser-known later material like “Modern Day Delilah”. If you wanted to delve further into Sonic Boom and Monster, there’s plenty of Paul’s guitar thunder without co-writers. This is strictly a list of the most impactful material: the 1970s.
So Stanley doesn’t get enough credit. Does this make him a riff master, up there with the other guys?
I’m going to go out on a limb: Maybe, leaning towards yes.
“God of Thunder”, “I Stole Your Love” and “Love Gun” are monolithic enough to stand next to an Iommi or Blackmore riff. Just like a Deep Purple fan knows there is more to them than just “durrh durrh durrh!”, a Kiss fan can recommend a number of rock solid riffs from their albums. A huge number of those are Paul’s, although certainly Gene did just fine with “Deuce”. “Deuce”, admitted Gene, is just a Stones lick played backwards. Paul’s best stuff is less derivative than that. “God of Thunder” is just that — “God of Thunder”. You can say it sounds vaguely Sabbathy, but it doesn’t sound like anything specific. Same with “I Stole Your Love”. As for “Hotter Than Hell”? Much like a great Sabbath song, it boasts two killer riffs in one track!
Elitists like to scoff; make fun of adults in makeup and spandex. Fair enough. Tony Iommi never needed makeup or particularly tight pants to be a rock star. Sabbath played with the “Satanic” gimmick but didn’t rely as heavily on image and flash. Kiss wouldn’t have made it in the first place without the makeup and costumes, but as they developed, they had the music to back it up.
Do yourself a favour and go back to listen to Paul’s classic guitar riffs. They are often highlights of the song, little rock solid gems that are ready for air guitar. He really hasn’t received the credit due for coming up with a number of simple, solid and dynamic riffs on his own. Should his name be spoken with Page, Blackmore, or Young when talking of riffs? We’ve made our case, so get Kiss’ed on these classics.
* Might have been Nuno Bettencourt
I’m toying with the idea of going to see them next July. Tickets aren’t too pricey, which surprised me.
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Unless they get Ace back and let the one scab go than the tix will go up in price…
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Check it out. Him and Bruce rejoined them.
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ace-frehley-rejoins-kiss-on-stage-at-kiss-kruise-video/
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Nice!
Seriously all this bickering between Kiss and the x members needs to stop as its ridiculous so it’s good to see being a good sport about it!
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NICE. That’s what I’m talking about. Why not have some guests to share the spotlight?
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If they don’t play Let’s Put The X In Sex I want a refund!!
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Paul did say “no obscure songs”! That one has only been played by Paul’s solo band in 89.
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Obscure songs! How dare he, it’s the only KISS track I ever used to put on compilations for people!
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They played it on the KISs Cruise last night…well Kulick played it
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Love is like a muscle and you make me wanna flex …
Pure poetry!
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Yup that just about some’s up the 80’s!
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March for us. Tickets on sale tomorrow. But I’m not going to sit here trying to buy the best tickets. I’ll get what I get.
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You should definitely go Mike. That would make me happy.
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Well that’s what matters!
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You need to think of your public.
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Here’s an underrated one, the riff in “Master & Slave” from Carnival of Souls. It does have a co-writing credit, but I still have to throw that song out there. That whole album gets too much grief, it’s quite good even if it is a little grunge.
The riff in “Makin’ Love” sounds like “Whole Lotta Love” slowed down mixed with “Toys in the Attic” really.
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I definitely considered Master & Slave but dropped it because of the co write. It’s a killer.
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Very good point!
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For sure the catalogue speaks for itself…
The 70’s output especially. Stanley was smashing out so many songs that eventually you need a co writer to inspire perhaps or a push from the record company!
Still though Paul is a great songwriter and riff n roll dude!
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Glad to have your approval Deke!
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Well that’s why we have been fans for as long as we have!
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Woo. You’ve made a dynamite point and you deserve to give yourself a round of applause LETS GO!
Total agree from me. A lot of my fave riffs are his. The outro riff to Hotter Than Hell f*ck yes.
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Fuck yeah!
Now if you’ll excuse me, I been partying myself, so I gotta go to the doctor to get myself checked out. I’m wearing my 501’s, you know the real tight ones?
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SHE OPENED UP MAH PAYNTS
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She checks her hand to make sure it’s not too cold, and she sticks it down the front.
And she pulls out, and says…
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I can’t dispute anything you say. I am also a little biased as I love Kiss more than those other bands you mentioned. Very underrated in riffs and rhythm. And yes…one of the greatest frontmen ever.
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Thanks John. I knew you’d have my back on this.
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As soon as I started reading this, I thought of “Detroit Rock City.” I do really love that riff. Did Paul write that? If not, then kudos to who did.
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He probably did, but Ezrin co-wrote it. The interesting thing is the riff is based on an old unreleased Kiss song called “You’re Much Too Young”. I could have included Detroit, but by the rules I set (no co-writes), I had to exclude it.
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That’s a shame but full kudos to Paul and Bob Ezrin.
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Agreed. If I wasn’t a stickler for the rules, it would be on here with “Creatures”.
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I don’t know enough Kiss tunes to comment, but… I’m gonna pay attention to the tunes.
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Off-topic, I know, but some readers here might enjoy this:
Coming soon to a club near me.
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Yes, heavily influenced by Maiden’s “Aces High”, but that is not necessarily bad. Their other stuff is less derivative.
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Are you in the band, Phil? Shameless self-promotion? That is a total ripoff of “Aces High”. They’re like Greta Van Fleet for Maiden.
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No, I am not a young Japanese woman. :-D
Ripoff? Maybe. But if so, then consider that Blackmore has no qualms about saying that Purple’s “Black Night” ripped off the riff, and the riff from “Smoke on the Water” comes from an Astrud Gilberto (yes, the girl from Ipanema) album called, of all things, Look to the Rainbow. And “Child in Time” was ripped off from a song by It’s a Beautiful today.
And I won’t even mention Led Zeppelin. :-|
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I’m not a KISS expert, but I know riffs. And that guy did a ton!
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I don’t hear people saying they hate Mr. Page all that often – I see that guitarist’s point though!
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