REVIEW: Geoff Tate’s Queensryche – “Cold” (2013 single)

Geoff Tate’s QUEENSRYCHE – “Cold” (2013 single)

Oh, how I wanted to hate this.

I don’t hate it.  It has a catchy riff, a good vocal from Geoff Tate, a shredding guitar solo, and it’s not about spitting on people or knives. It sounds modern while still featuring a guitar riff or two.  I don’t hate it like I hated, say, Tribe.  I’m disappointed that it’s a little faceless and generic sounding.

The problem is that it doesn’t sound like Queensryche.  It sounds like a Geoff Tate solo track.  Probably the best Geoff Tate solo track that there’s been so far.  But just a Geoff Tate solo track.

The blockheaded drums do not sound like the textured complexity of Queensryche.  (Sounds like Simon Wright though.)

The piano is distracting, I kept thinking a phone was ringing somewhere in my house.  It sounds like, “Hey, we have a keyboard player in our band.”

I love the guitar solo.  It’s so tasty and good.  Who is this?  Kelly?  Robert?  Neither?  What will this sound like when performed live without guest stars?

I don’t know if the mix is worth the brew-ha-ha that’s being made of it.  It’s not to my taste personally but it sounds like they had a vision of a heavier than fuck sound and just kind of overdid it.

This track confirms that Tate is still capable of writing good music.  It does not confirm that Tate still is capable of writing good Queensryche music.  This is his Chinese Democracy.  It has a vibe of, “Let’s saturate the song with everything from the biggest sounding drums to the fastest solo to a guy playing piano.”  Let’s try anything.

Where the real Queensryche’s song, “Redemption”, sounded unmistakably like Queensryche, Tate’s reeks of contrivances.    In the Battle of the Ryches, Round One, the original band comes out on top.  Tateryche will have their supporters, but it is clear now that Queensryche is a band sound, not merely a singer.

2.5/5 stars

More Queensryche:

Mike Ladano: Exclusive EDDIE JACKSON interview, part I

Mike Ladano: Exclusive EDDIE JACKSON interview, part II

Mike Ladano: Exclusive EDDIE JACKSON interview, part III

Mike Ladano: Exclusive EDDIE JACKSON interview, part IV

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164 comments

    1. Well, you know, 2.5…that’s 50%…still a pass in many classes!

      It’s a pass. I would have rated it maybe 3 or 3.5 if it was a solo track. As a Queensryche track, it doesn’t sound like them.

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        1. Same with me. I figure it’s because we tend to review the albums we own, therefore mostly albums that we like, right?

          But this, I don’t know if I will get this. Leaning on the “no” side. I don’t think I will crave to hear this one too often when I need a Queensryche fix.

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  3. Ok … well … It certainly is much better than i thought this would be. However … I think we should remember this. This may end up being the “heaviest” song on the album. It certainly wouldnt surprise me. Im honestly surprised that you didnt rate this higher than 2.5. You say you would have given it a higher rating but it doesnt sound like “Queensryche”. But you couldnt have been expecting it to sound like older Queensryche could you? If anything .. it not sounding like older Queensryche actually gives this track some merit that I really didnt want to be giving to that Douche Bag Tate. Speaking of that douche … pretty apparent that his vocal range is severely limited. Everything here is in his new-found wheelhouse so to speak. Lots of studio vocal tricks happening here too. I have a feeling that if we heard him and just an acoustic guitar, with no effects … he might sound a bit like Bob Dylan now.

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    1. Of course I wasn’t expecting it to sound like older Queensryche. 2.5 stars is all it’s worth for being faceless, and more of the same old same old we’re used to hearing from Tate over the last 10 years.

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  5. I actually liked this song. Must have been the best one Tate has come up with in many years. And if he had gone solo with it, I probably would had liked it more because, as you said, it doesn’t sound like Queensrÿche and the cover of the album says Queensrÿche.
    I think I gave Frequency Unknown a 5/10, but if Tate would have released it as a solo album I might have given it a 6 or a secen, because it’s really not a crap album – but under the Queensrÿche moniker, it leaves a lot to be desired. Kind of like The Elder by Kiss or 1987 by Whitesnake. Both are really good efforts, but under the Kiss and Whitesnake names, they really don’t delivers.

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    1. Jon you should really post the link to your Freq. Unknown review, because the conversation there with Neue Regel was, dare I say it, almost overshadowing the review itself! It was good entertainment anyway. It’s how you earned the nickname “Mastermind” in the first place!

      I agree with what you’re saying, about rating it higher if it was just a Tate release. And even though some people might find that kind of rating system biased, I will justify for myself as follows:

      I expect a certain level of quality out of a Queensryche album, and I expect it to sound like the same band. No matter how much their sound changed between the EP and Q2k, it still sounded like the same band. This does not. It sounds like the same singer, but not the same band.

      Here’s a good example: Motley Crue self-titled. Vince left, but it still sounded like heavy Motley Crue, because it was Nikki writing, Tommy on the drums, and Mick on guitar. It had the core sound enough that many fans today LOVE that album.

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      1. Yeah, Neue Regel… those were the days…
        Speaking of Tate, I rate his solo album Kings & Thieves higher than Freq. Unknown, just because of the fact that it was a solo album and therefore it did not need any Queensrÿche references at all.

        Here’s my Freq. Unknown review featuring mr Mike Rietow aka Neue Regel making a complete ass of himself…

        http://etainmentnewsreviews.wordpress.com/metal/metal-reviews-2013/queensryche-frequency-unknown/

        He also continued to prove to everyone reading that the had the brains of a plankton in the review for the real Queensrÿche record.

        http://etainmentnewsreviews.wordpress.com/metal/metal-reviews-2013/queensryche-queensryche/

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        1. Here’s a question: Let’s assume Queensryche win the name, and Tate loses the court case. Do you think Frequency Unknown should be re-released as a Tate album? Do you think it should remain on shelves as is? What’s your take?

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        3. Yea, funny how you changed the post order and left out alot of what you actually said. Dirty tactics kinda leads me to believe you weren’t thrilled with the outcome of our debate after reading so you changed the order of posts and left out alot of what you said! LOL! I agree our debate was classic but now that its been hacked and rearranged our debate can’t be followed by any reader. “Mastermind” tell me how to think, how to feel!…ahh soo!

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        4. And here he is. Welcome, Mr Regel, you’ve been missed…

          But no, nothing has been touched at all in those comments. Nothing at all. All the comments are exactly as they were when we left them, 100%. Nothing added, nothing erased, no order changed, nada.

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        5. Jon rearranged the order of comments because after reading his own writings he knew he himself had made a total ass of himself! Lol…we spoke of click tracks at the end of our debate not the beginning, jon’s comments regarding M C Hammer have been removed……a couple examples that proves its not beyond Jon to manipulate in order to keep himself in a good light! Lol! No credibility Jon no credibility! Narcissistic behavior Jon.

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        6. Waahh waahh waahh. Like I said, there’s no way to prove anything one way or another. Plus that has nothing to do with my awesome Kelly Gray reviews.

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      2. Here’s the deal straight from the “voice of reason”, “fairminded”, “peaceful man stands tall” Neue Regel: Geoff Tate is awarded the Queensryche brand in this corporate dispute come Jan 2014, mark it down and the settlement will be based around money and who has the most of it.

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        2. And you know this how? Or maybe you’re just guessing. Or maybe you and camp Tate had a couple of beers and camp Tate told you how they thought it all would go down and you took it for facts as they are your employers. Hmmm. Yeah, I’d go with that…

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        3. Money decides all, money. There’s no money in record sales atleast not in the numbers were talking with these two entities.

          If Geoff Tate wants the Queensryche brand he pays for it. It comes down to numbers and how long and risks in returns. The judge presiding is not going to consider who was called a douche bag the most or record sales, world tours etc. Money decides this just as it does all big decisions concerning substantial amounts of money.

          Same goes for Toddryche, they better have an investors

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        4. Wrong. Not even close to what the judge said. Did you read the case at all?

          The judge said “the market will decide.”. The market has decided. Queensryche will pay Tate his share for the name and that’s it.

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        6. You have plenty more Tate solo shows to enjoy. No reason to be sad. Go to the Tate shows and enjoy! Maybe you will catch a Kelly Gray guitar pick.

          Since you’re such a big Tateryche fan, I should tell you that yesterday I finished publishing a 2 part series on Kelly Gray’s productions. Hope you enjoy!

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        7. The market will decide the value of the corporation, I agree.

          Geoff Tates attorneys are busy verifying all income. Toddryche attorneys down playing incomes. Geoff Tate has the money to buy Queensryche brand if he wants it. Comes down to money like all big decisions. Plain and simple “who has the money”?.

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        8. You know Tate’s accountants? Cool, man. Did they get my Christmas card?

          You misunderstand. The brand is not for sale. Yes, money will change hands, but it is not an auction. Tate has already lost as ticket sales have demonstrated.

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        9. Ladano has “rock star” envy same symptoms as penis envy! Lol

          How would you know, you haven’t seen Queensryche live since the Promised land tour? Far from any kind of expert! Lol

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        16. Again, Mr Regel, you speak of things you really know nothing about. Or do you? I’m curious of how you know that Geoff Tate has all that money. I’m not saying he hasn’t, I just like to know how you know. And please don’t tell me you googled Geoff Tate wealth.

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  6. I guess not, as Tate had the right to release it as a QR album. But if I was tate I’d re-release it and get my solo career started already. When will this case be settled anyway? I don’t think Tate stands one chance winning this.

    Queensrÿche (the real deal) will be playing in Stockholm in November and that’s a gig I won’t miss. I’ll review it as well. Let’s see if Mr Regel makes a come back then. :-)

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    1. Awesome! Can’t wait to read. I hope he comes back.

      The case has been scheduled for January now. From what I’ve read, the band will have to pay Tate a certain amount of money for the usage of the name and at this point they are just arguing over how much.

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      1. How stupid. They shouldn’t have to pay him squat! Thing is, Tate was the last member to join QR, they existed before he became their singer, so naturally they should be able to continue without him.
        Kind of like Jake E Lee would start his own Ozzy Osbourne band and Ozzy had to pay him not to use it…

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        1. The contracts must be drawn up in such a way that each remaining member owns 1/4 of the name. Maybe if they could go back in time, they’d change that.

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      2. Ladano your wish has been answered ……..now what? You gonna get schooled and rearrange the post order, leave posts out, name drop and rely on help from cronies so as to not seem like a clown to readers? LOL!

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        1. Hahahah, I have no idea what this guy is talking about, except I’m glad he’s finally “graced” my site with his presence. Legend no longer, now he is “in the flesh”!

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      1. This neue regel guy is hilarious. You know how he found this thread? He googled himself! HAHAHAH! He turned up in my search terms today googling himself!

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        1. Comments in our debate were left out, the order in which the comments were made, was changed. LOL

          Our debate was based around your personal attack on Geoff Tate, with your comment calling him a douche bag and saying he seemed demented.

          Douche bag move Jon with all due respect sir! Lol

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        3. No, they were not. I didn’t change a thing. The order is exactly the same as it was when the comments were written. I don’t have the time nor interest to sit down and change stuff like that, may days hasn’t enuff hours as it is.
          And our debate was about the music and Tate’s behaviour. I called him a douche because he acted like one.

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        4. If you must know ladano, I googled a product I sell and my name together. If you must know. Lol

          To not ruin the moment of your hilarium. I have googled myself in the past, ssshhhh! Lmao!

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        6. So Jon if you didn’t rearrange or leave out comments where is your “Geoff Tate seems demented” comment?

          If the comments in our debate were not rearranged it would be directly above neue regel saying “I choose to believe you meant to say animated” and asked you if you even knew what demented meant! Lol

          Jon has too much time on his hands! Lol

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        7. Do you have a reading disorder?
          No, I did not rearrange anything at all. Nothing. Everything is exactly as it was when you wrote the comments. How many times do I have to say it? NO. I DID NOT CHANGE ANYTHING AT ALL! Comprende?

          And fyi, I wish for too much time on my hands.

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        8. Jon ill ask again, if you didn’t leave out or rearrange any of the comments in our debate then where is your comment “Geoff Tate seems demented”?….where is it? Gone!

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        9. Nobody can prove it one way or the other, so you may as well drop it. Arguing it further isn’t going to get anyway. Why don’t you go check out my Gray reviews while you’re here?

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        10. You mean I removed my own comments? Please.
          Ok, I’ll answer again, no I did not.
          Nothing has been changed. All the comments that were written at the time are still there and no order has been changed.
          And yes, I did write that I found some of Tate’s behaviour demented. I still stand for that comment.

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        11. Demented:
          1. Mentally ill; insane.
          2. Suffering from dementia or a loss of cognitive function.

          Jon is right. Some of Tate’s behaviour (if true) would be considered “demented”. You’ll notice he said “behaviour”. This is not a comment on Tate, it is a comment on behaviour. I don’t condone attacking people with knives or spitting on them.

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  7. Here are some clips from Monsters Of Rock with Tateryche:



    If you can honesty claim that this actually sounds like Queensrÿche, the you’re either delusional or suffering from the worst case of wishful thinking ever. Besides, Tate’s voice is completely shot. What a disaster.

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    1. No. Doesn’t sound like Queensryche. Sounds just like a cover band.

      This is terrible honestly. Comparing this version of “Eyes of a Stranger” to the bonus track on the new Queensryche Japanese import, there’s no comparison AT ALL.

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    2. Jon, please allow me to bring some sanity into your ongoing personal attack on Mr. Geoff Tate and Queensryche.

      1. No click tracks are utilized, so yes you are correct the songs sound different than when Queensryche and Geoff Tate performed with click tracks.

      2. Does Queensryche music sound better on a big stage when click tracks are used? …apparently yes

      3. GT. Voice is fine he needs a couple badass guitarists and Tishey back….Empire is good on this vid, not great but good.

      …yes QueensrycheYY

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      2. Jon, how many people were in attendance for this performance do you estimate? Id say 50,000 when Queensryche performed, just an estimate. Looks to me they enjoyed the performance,? Empire performance like I said is good and it looks like there is 50,000 or so who would beg to differ with your ongoing personal attacks on Queensryche and its legendary singer Geoff Tate. They might tell you , “your delusional “! Or “you have wishful thinking”……………..lmao!

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        1. It’s a festival. Do you really believe that all these people bought a ticket to see Tate? They went there because Tate and the band played. They would have went to that stage no matter who was playing. I’ve seen completely unknown bands draw a really big crowd at festivals, with people enjoying themselves and clapping along to their music. How come? Well, it’s sunny day, cold beer and a big party. I wouldn’t read that much into it, no matter what band. And no, that’s hardly 50 000 people there.
          Besides, you don’t have any idea of how many of those people left that gig going “boy, they sucked hard!”, right?

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        2. Also, this is a festival in Brazil. Down there they go bananas over all the bands that play. I have never seen a Brazilian crowd not go wild to anything. They would have given the same reaction to f**king Poison…

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        6. It’s still a festival crowd – not Tate’s crowd. Makes me wonder if you have ever attended a festival, regel boy. If you had you’d know that people buy tickets for the whole event and most of them tries to watch as many bands as possible, therefore the big crowd. Bottom line : not Tate’s crowd alone.

          Yes, Mike, Ratt did get such a reaction. They had a much bigger crowd than Tateryche and they also got a better response thatn Tate. And listen to Stephen Pearcy’s vocals here. Horrible. The crowd goes nuts over Ratt anyway. Maybe that’s because Pearcy is a legend. Or because he’s such an amazing singer. Maybe all the crowd needs is the “voice”. What do you think, regel boy? Why does Ratt go down so well despite Pearcy can’t sing for shit anymore?

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        8. Jon babbles! Lol! We already covered the idea all the bands together brought the crowd lol, try and keep up with the conversion. Please don’t just babble about things already addressed! Thank you!

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        10. Jon says “there’s much more people there with Ratt” oh, ok mastermind!!! Lol! But when you look out from the stage in the daytime when Queensryche is on there are people as far as the eye can see? When Ratt is on its night and seeing the crowd is difficult at best? Jon you talk out your a**!..lol! Your full of bull***t! Lol!

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      3. But Brian Tichy was never the permanent drummer. He’s got too many pokers in the fire (including that badass new Kiss tribute album). Simon Wright’s the drummer in Geoff’s band.

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        1. Yeah, I agree and simon does real well with Empire in these vids but not so well eyes of stranger. Tishy damn sure made things interesting. Wise man once said “your only as good as the people you surround yourself with”……GT is obviously being overly loyal to his old friend Kelly Gray although it appears Gray brings alot to the table besides being at guitar. He always pretty much has been w/Queensryche when they’ve toured he can fix anything from the tour bus to doing all the sound setup from what I’ve read.

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        2. Ladano, do a review on “Weight of the World” its the gem on Frequency Unknown in my humble opinion and should have been the single. Relevant song for Queensryche supporters from the beginning. (Age)

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      4. 1. It’s not about the click tracks, it’s about the players. THEY are the ones making it not sound like QR.

        2. Again, they might sound better with click tracks, but it doesn’t matter as these guys makes them sound like a tribute band.
        3. No. Tate’s voice is not fine, it’s shot. It hurts to listen to Geoff’s off key sounds.

        This isn’t a personal attack. It’s my opinion – and it’s an opinion shared by many. Fact is, you’re the only one I have seen writing anything good about these clips. But so what, good for you if you like it.

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        1. I think Geoff’s voice has been deteriorating for a few years now, but it’s more the reports of his behaviour that has turned me off. (That and that his new band do not sound like Queensryche.)

          Tate defenders have said, “Well, you weren’t there, you don’t know what happened between Tate and the band. That is true. I was not there. However I have seen the spitting on youtube videos, and read the reports, and where there’s smoke there’s fire.

          An analogy would be Toronto mayor Rob Ford. Everybody thinks he smokes crack cocaine, even though it cannot be proven. But most of us think he was smoking something.

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        2. Jon “jumping the shark again”; reviewing a festival he didn’t attend and telling us all and the Brazilian fans who did attend why they applauded! Lol! Mastermind “tell us how to feel” “tell us what to think”! …lol!

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    3. Im trying to figure out wtf Jon is talking about? Empire is good and the 50,000 or so spectators present at this gig obviously agree with me! Look at the crowd Jon. Are you saying they are delusional” and all have wishful thinking”? Jon are you watching the same Empire performance you posted? Jon exactly what is your stake in your personal attack of legendary Queensryche vocalist Geoff Tate anyway? We are all ears!!!

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      1. Looks like a big show I wonder why Queensryche and not toddryche got the call jon? …..ill tell you” because its the monsters of rock! Lol! Only legends play the monsters of rock!…..

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        1. 1. He played “Big Noize” WHY? (out of touch)
          2. He didn’t draw that crowd. Aeosmith and Whitesnake did.
          3. Are Ratt “legends”? How about “Mr. Sin” who I have never heard of? They played this Monsters of Rock too. Legends, I guess, right Jon?

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        2. In my humble opinion it stands to reason all the bands involved in “Monsters” contributed to drawing the crowd but my point was, the crowd enjoyed the Queensryche performance even though the music sounded different from years past when Queensryche used “click tracks” for live performances. Speaking Whitesnake, saw them open for the Scorps 2002 ish down town Tampa hockey arena w/ice under temporary floor. Whitesnake extended “still of the night” riff for there encore very cool and it stayed in my head for a week. Scorpions loud and very powerful back then compared to there Tampa farewell show last yr with Ratt as there opener! We enjoyed Ratt catchy sing along songs!

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        3. Fair enough about all bands contributing to the crowd.

          Personally I don’t get the big deal about click tracks. A lot of rock bands who use elaborate stage and light shows use them, to keep the music in sync with the computers that control the stage show. I never begrudged anybody in Queensryche for having click tracks, not when some of the greatest bands in progressive rock, such as Marillion, also use them.

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        4. Big Noize? That’s on Dedicated to chaos, not familiar with that song but I liked “At the Edge” and “its a lie” on that record, believe it or not I have not purchased that record yet! Lol, but there is a reason they did “big noize” in Brazil, its a campaign man! Example:2008 American Soldier tour they opened w/Neue Regel all shows…..there’s a reason, not familiar w/song though, it could be because Brazil is gonna make big noise in yrs coming as the next super power because of oil discovered off tthere coast enough to produce 20% of worlds oil!!! That’s a BIG percentage. Its a campaign not out of touch man!

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        5. Wait — you don’t have Decicated to Chaos? Even I have that one (deluxe edition)! Funny thing, I liked it best the first time I heard it. I thought, “Cool, it’s an experiment in sound like Promised Land. Can’t wait to let the songs grow on me.” But they never really did.

          I’m only missing two Queensryche albums currently — Frequency Unknown and one of the live ones. The one they did after Tribe, I forget the title. The Art of Live?

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        6. Oh, im not say there’s anything wrong w/click tracks, Queensryche always had the badass live shows, but it stands to reason things will be much different without them especially when we’ve all come to expect the exact recording sound for Queensryche live performances after all these years and the bigger the stage the more there missed apparently? ……. after all there is a reason for click tracks eh?

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        7. Absolutely, I agree with that statement too. I’m sure some bands need click tracks to play in time — I wouldn’t be surprised if Kiss had to use them during the reunion era because Peter Criss is notorious for having bad timing — but there’s nothing inherently wrong with them.

          I will say that for what I see lacking in Geoff’s band, he’s definitely singing better this year than in previous years. He seems like he’s putting everything he has into it.

          Who knows, I wonder if we’ll end up in a long term situation where two bands have the same name. It worked for a while for LA Guns (except Tracii couldn’t hang onto a lead singer) and it seems to be working currently for Great White.

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        10. Yeah, Tate 56 now makes you wonder? Personally id like to see hard rock (and the music industry as a whole) and all these guys doing better. Makes you wonder? Im gonna miss em all! We got Jan 14th though ill keep yuh posted! Cheers!

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        12. Operation Mindcrime show just announced for the capital theater in Clearwater Fl, (about 4 miles from our house) Jan 16 lol!, we already bought tickets for Orlando fl Jan 14 show 75 miles away. My girl said “good going” !! Bobby Blotzer at drums according to the email we received for show info.

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        14. At first I thought it was old media info but Drover would have also been included id imagine? “Interesting” was my second thought!

          Yeah, ill review Operation Mindcrime for you Ladano!

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        15. Yeah I agree, old media probably would have included Drover. Maybe both Simon and Brian are unavailable for that date, but Bobby’s available? It would be a logical choice.

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        16. Yeah, it said KG at guitar directly after mentioning Blotzer as a longtime true friend of Geoff Tate. Im not real familiar Blotzer besides seeing Ratt open for the Scorpions on there farewell tour but I do remember him along with the lead guitarist of Ratt as that bands strong points, catchy sing along songs for Ratt, Pearcey had cool stage presence. We enjoyed Ratt alot more than we thought we would!!!

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        17. I’ve never been a huge Ratt fan but I did buy their last album Infestation. It was a pretty good return to the core Ratt sound, with Carlos Cavaso as the new second guitar player. But since that time, they got the original bass player Juan Crocier back, who was always a contributing writer and vocalist in the band. So I think with Crocier and Cavaso in the band, they have the strongest lineup since Robbin Crosby died RIP!

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        19. Really? Did I now?

          “If you can honesty claim that this actually sounds like Queensrÿche, the you’re either delusional or suffering from the worst case of wishful thinking ever.”

          That’s what I wrote. Exactly where did I write that you’re delusional if you enjoy Queensrÿche?
          Or maybe you have decided that this is what I mean. Mastermind…

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        21. Jon did you get your education off the back of a pack of matches? If the music doesn’t sound like Queensryche why would 50,000 or so Brazilian’s enjoy the music? Queensryche is who they paid to see? Im sure these Brazilian rock fans would not appreciate you referring to them as delusional because they enjoy the hard rock music.

          You should publicly apologize to these Brazilian fans also for saying in a round about way these Brazilian’s are stupid; saying they go “bananas” for music that doesn’t sound good. I disagree, they just love legendary bands!!! You should apologize!!!

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      2. I only listened to the songs and it sounds dreadful. Do you really think that Geoff sings decent on that track, or any of the other ones I posted? Get over the personal attack bit. I don’t go for shit like that, I only speak what I think. I have nothing against Tate what so ever, I would love the original band back together again as much as the next guy, as long as they still can make it sound good. But Tate doesn’t. I’m a huge Kiss fan, I believe that Paul Stanley has totally lost his voice. Is that a personal attack on Paul? I have seen Whitesnake perform a couple of times the last few years and I believe that Coverdale’s voice is shot. Do I hate Cov now? I don’t care if it’s my favourite band I’m talking about, if they can’t deliver anymore, then they can’t – simple as that.
        You need to stop taking these things so damn personal.

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        2. Alright, let’s try to stay on topic…I don’t think anybody’s trying to “silence” anyone else. I think we’re all just trying to get our points across. Let’s just stick to that.

          For all we know, Jon could be a real wizard and casting a spell on you right now, long distance! Be nice :)

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        4. What are you talking about?
          You accused me for personal attacks on Tate and I told you I don’t do that.
          Where did I ever tried to silence anybody?

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        7. No that is not what he said at all. You are mis-quoting him. What Jon said was:

          “If you can honesty claim that this actually sounds like Queensrÿche, the you’re either delusional or suffering from the worst case of wishful thinking ever”

          He said nothing about enjoying Queensryche. He said you’re delusional if you think it sounds like Queensryche (he’s right). That is not the same as enjoyment. I enjoy vanilla ice cream. I’d be delusional to say that it tastes anything like chocolate. But they’re both ice cream and I like both.

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        8. My point, the Brazilian crowd would disagree it stands to reason with Jon and his “delusional and wishful thinking” comments. Look at the crowd on Empire….also we’ve all seen our share of youtube stuff that the sound is less than real world.

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        9. No, you don’t know if they were cheering because they thought it sounded like Queensryche, or just because they liked it. Those are two different things.

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        11. Just heard nikki sixx show that ace and peter settled there 10 plus year dispute and got together and played some kiss at a bday party eddie trunk if you hadn’t heard.

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        12. Even more exciting are the songs that Kiss played on the Kiss Kruise III. The Oath, Let Me Know, Anything For My Baby, and for the first time ever, Almost Human!

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        13. In jons opinion everybody sucks and in a round about way he says Brazilian fans are stupid because they applaud any music at festivals no matter how bad it sounds!!! We were having an educated conversion w/interesting info before jon hijacked the conversation with his negative no it all B*ll sh*t and I call him out on it! So im banned?!! Lmao! I dig! Lol loud!!!

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        14. So, I said that everybody sucks and I called the Brazilian fans stupid, did I? Exactly where did I write that? Please let me know. You’re putting words in my mouth. Mastermind!

          So, Regel boy, have you ever attended a festival? If you had, you’d might know that in most cases, festival crowds attends festivals to have a good time, a party and listen to some great music. The fact that Tateryche doesn’t have the original QR sound anymore isn’t that important. It’s a good band which are playing great songs, the sun is shining and there are beer to drink. So, Pearcy’s voice is shot. So what? It’s a party and it’s a good time and that is usually what festivals are all about.
          I never said they were delusional. I never said that the music don’t sound good. It does. But it doesn’t have the QR sound. It’s not that hard to hear.

          Also, a good friend of mine lives in Brazil and he told me the rock fans down there more or less freaks out to no matter who’s playing as they don’t get the chance to watch hard rock and metal bands that often.

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  8. Has anyone heard Blotzer play with Tate’s band? I haven’t, but I have a feeling that Blotzer left the band was because he couldn’t pull it off, the QR songs, I mean. It’s one thing to play Ratt’s stuff but a whole other thing playing QR stuff, way more complicated. I saw Ratt at Sweden Rock some years ago and to say that Blotz was tight would be to lie big time. Both Simon Wright and Brian Tichy are in a whole different league than Blotzer, in my opinion.

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    1. I don’t believe they ever got past rehearsals with Blotzer. If that — he was only in the band for the very early stages. Who knows if they ever had started playing together yet, or Tate was just assembling the names.

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  9. Really? Did I now?

    “If you can honesty claim that this actually sounds like Queensrÿche, the you’re either delusional or suffering from the worst case of wishful thinking ever.”

    That’s what I wrote. Exactly where did I write that you’re delusional if you enjoy Queensrÿche?
    Or maybe you have decided that this is what I mean. Mastermind…

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  10. Well, Mr Regel, I have seen coverbands play Empire and they also got the crowd cheering and clapping their hands. Why? Well, because Empire is an awesome song, that’s why. The Brazilian festival crowd probably liked the tune. But does Tate sing well? Nope. Does it sound like QR? Nope.

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      2. No, Brazialian crowd cheered when they heard the songs. They didn’t cheer because they were so amazed by Tate’s brilliant vocal performance. Brazilian crowd would have gone bananas over Todd’s Queensryche as well.

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        4. No mastermind” your comments on the Brazilian crowd is conjecture (presumption w/incomplete info)……my comment on Empire is not conjecture! ….I simply say “Empire is good, look at the crowd” “they enjoyed and might disagree with you.

          No Jon not the same! Lol

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        7. I don’t think that’s what he was saying. What he was saying, and I agree with him, are these things:

          1. Brazilian crowds would have enjoyed Toddryche just as much. This is how they always react. It’s great to see but not unexpected or unusual.
          2. Not everyone that is in a festival crowd is there to see any one band. We all know this. I would take that to be self evident. Some of those people are probably Whitesnake fans who hate Queensryche. That’s just the odds, sir.

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        8. “Let’s move on” after I add more conjecture! Lol

          No the Brazilian crowd didn’t go “bananas” for toddryche because they were not offered a playing slot at monster rock, Queensryche was!

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        11. Aaah, so Toddryche weren’t offered a bill at the festival, you say? I would love to hear you explain how you know that. Because you do know that, right? I mean, you did write that as a fact. Or maybe you’re just making things up…

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  11. Btw, I’m looking forward to the Queensrÿche gig on Wednesday. The real Queensrÿche, that is. Not Doucheryche The Coverband…

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        1. How many cover bands can you name that still have three of the four founding members? The fourth being DeGarmo, since Tate was just a hired gun in the very beginning. No writing credits on the first EP at all. An EP that the other Queensryche are playing live…you know…the guys who wrote it.

          So for Jon and myself, please define “cover band”.

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        3. 3 out of 4.

          “Rising West” is from a lyric that Tate did NOT write. Tate didn’t even start writing with the band until Warning. An album that Wilton also co-wrote 6 songs on.

          Who’s the cover band again? How many of these albums did Kelly Gray or Rudy Sarzo write?

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        6. Geoff Tate has CO-WRITTEN, you mean?
          Still, that’s beside the point. Wilton, Jackson & Rockenfield were all aprt of the band as much as Tate and DeGarmo when those songs were written and recorded and therefore they have every right to play them. Tate has his backing band of hired hands who plays QR songs with the original singer. 1/6 original in Tateryche, 3/5 original in Queensrÿche. You do the maths. Oh, wait, Tate isn’t an original member. That makes it 0/6….

          If I’m watching the gig and then write a review of how I experienced it, how could that be conjecture?

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        7. Boy jon doesn’t know the definition of conjecture obviously,! Personally. I think your full of sh** and I don’t believe much of anything you say, that includes the Toadryche show Wed night. Put a picture of the tickets up for us!

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