GRAB A STACK OF ROCK With Mike, Aaron KMA and Tim Durling
Special Edition Episode: An 8 Track Holy Grail & More
This video is years in the making. More than just an “unboxing” video, this is a fun and informative episode that documents one man’s journey to collect his favourite bands on obsolete formats, and another man’s ability to find them.
About four years ago, Aaron provided Tim with a rare 8-track tape that he needed for his collection. Another one of Aaron’s tapes went to Martin Popoff. But there was one tape that Tim needed to “complete” a specific collection. And this summer, Aaron found that one too. He just has a knack for it, and it seems appropriate that it was Aaron who found this last tape. There’s a story that goes with it, and three tapes that went to me as well!
“Complete” is in quotes, because this video is far more than just an unboxing video. This is a philosophical (and fun) discussion about 8-track tapes, collecting, and genuine Australian bubble wrap. We discuss breaks in the middle of tracks, altered track listings, and for good measure, a little bit about vintage Star Wars toys. We also speculate on one tape that may still be out there, but remains unknown.
This episode is in two parts. It begins with Aaron and I unboxing three beautiful 8-track tapes, and a number of birthday gifts. Also inside that box was Tim’s tape, which I mailed immediately to New Brunswick. The video cuts and picks up with Tim, ready to open his treasure in front of the cameras.
Aerosmith have called it a day, at least insofar as playing live is concerned. While we know a series of reissues is coming, it is likely that Aerosmith are done as an active band. I never got to see them live, but at least I did get to participate in this great Top Five album ranking with Tim, Jex and Will! (The same team that did a “least favourite Kiss list last year.)
The task was simple: Pick our top five Aerosmith albums, and two runners-up. This time, Jex didn’t go wild and pick, like, Just Push Play as his #1. In fact we think these lists were pretty rock solid! Some lesser-appreciated albums were given love, and the “big ones” were well represented. Studio only, no live or compilations.
Please enjoy this show as much as we enjoyed making it.
Today on Tim’s Vinyl Confessions, we deep dive into the new (final?) Mr. Big album called Ten. Shockingly, it’s their tenth studio album. I know, right? It’s also a few firsts: the first album with no songwriting from bassist Billy Sheehan, and debut Mr. Big album for new drummer Nick D’Virgilio. It has been eight long years since their last album, Defying Gravity, which wasn’t bad at all. Did they top it? Did they go out on a good note?
A few weeks ago, Tim & I tackled a classic Helix album on Tim’s Vinyl Confessions. Check out this 4:07 mini album review, in which we discuss the album and the rare Canadian glow in the dark cassette.
The album should have been bigger than it was, so hopefully we spread some appreciation in the video below.
Even since the LeBrain Train days, I loved a good intro video to a live show. Not too many YouTube shows do intro videos these days, but it has always been something I liked. Even back in the Train days, I wanted an intro video with every guest we ever had appearing in it. That carries over to Grab A Stack of Rock. The only problem is, the intro video was 1:14 minutes long, and it was getting harder and harder to cram everyone in. I had to sacrifice a lot of Harrison’s Lego art in order to fit everyone.
The other problem with the intro video were the lyrics. There was one line that was relevant when the show started, but not anymore. I figured the only thing I would be able to do was hire a band (I had one in mind) to re-record the entire song from scratch.
Fortunately, audio wizard and author Tim Durling had a quicker, easier, and cheaper solution. He made some minor edits to the original track and voila!
This new version of the song is extended by nine seconds, an absolute eternity in some ways, and enough to pack in a lot more Lego art and show cameos. The new version includes the latest guest to appear on our show, Mr. Matt Phillips.
With this new show intro, we’ll be able to keep adding guests for the next year. Thank you so much Tim for doing this. As Johnny Walters used to say, “the cheque is in the mail!”
Huge thank you to Jex Russell and Tim Durling for spending Friday afternoon with us chatting about Kansas! Tim’s third book, Let It Be Your Guide: The Kansas Album Review, is out now Like his previous two books, you can get this one now on your local Amazon.
Kansas are progressive rock legends, but did they ever get the respect they deserved? They are still making music today, and good music too. This book, and this interview, reflect a love of Kansas that perhaps isn’t seen enough in media (mainstream and social) these days. Tim hopes to change that. His appreciation for the music is sincere. As for Jex and I, we could only sit back and learn.
We had one surprise lined up for Tim, a Grab A Stack of Rock first. In a surprise appearance, TVC bandmate and book cover artist Matt Phillips explains what went into the artwork, and other important details about publishing a book like this. Indeed, there are photos of articles from Tim’s personal collection inside, all laid out beautifully with great care. Thank you Matt for sending in this great video. If you want to know about some of the Easter eggs on the book art, watch this video.
Congratulations Tim on this third book, and please support him by picking up a copy on Amazon. Jex and I will be back from the cottage soon for another Grab A Stack of Rock. Thanks everybody for your viewer questions and comments!
SHOW NOTES
“A FAN’S EAR-VIEW OF WHAT MAKES KANSAS’ MUSIC SO SPECIAL” – Jeff Wagner
Tim, what took you so long to write a third book? Y&T was 7 months ago.
Tell us your point of entry into Kansas. (I do not remember ever seeing Kansas on MuchMusic)
One might argue that you were born to write this book, given your channel “Tim’s Vinyl Confessions”.
During a debate of greatest “Song 1 Side 1” in history among the lead characters in the movie High Fidelity, Jack Black’s character criticizes one of John Cusack’s character’s proposals as “too obvious, like ‘Point of Know Return'”.
Let’s assume you’re talking to Kansas megafans watching this show, who have every album already. Why should they buy this book?
The band is known for clever wordplay in titles, such as “Point of Know Return” and “Leftoverture”. Did you sneak any clever wordplay into this book that you can tell us about?
GRAB A STACK OF ROCK With Mike and the Mad Metal Man Episode 64: Let It Be Your Guide: The Kansas Album Review with Tim Durling
Masquerading as a man without a reason, Tim Durling is a wayward son no more! Now with his third book on the shelves, it’s time to talk to Tim about his latest tome: Let It Be Your Guide: The Kansas Album Review. Like his previous two books, you can get this one now on your local Amazon.
Cohost Jex Russell and I will be chatting with Tim this afternoon about all the usual stuff: the genesis of the idea, recruiting the coterie of “Wheatheads” (including Jex and I, among other members of the community) and the brilliant cover artwork by Matt Phillips. We also have a very special surprise for Tim, plus lots of physical product to show. This time, I’ve got an 8-track!
Today’s show will be a free-flowing chat, and it will be live, so you too will be able to ask Tim your Kansas questions! Let Tim be your guide.
From Amazon:
THE MUSIC IS ALL FOR YOU.
LET IT BE YOUR GUIDE: The Kansas Album Review is an in-depth look at America’s premier progressive rock band, and celebrates 50 YEARS OF KANSAS!
Led by the songwriting and multi-instrumental genius of Kerry Livgren, the pristine pipes of Steve Walsh, and the cutting violin of Robby Steinhardt, Kansas emerged from their Topeka home base with their 1974 debut album, to take on the world… and win! Initially met with confusion from music buyers, Kansas eventually captured the hearts of listeners far and wide. Kansas has proven that a band writing—and playing—music their way can succeed, and flourish:
7 Billboard Top 40 singles
7 Billboard Hot 100 hits
5 Gold albums
A 4X Platinum album
A 4,000,000-selling album
A 3,000,000-selling greatest hits
A Platinum live album
After 50 years, Kansas continues to produce vital, new music, and brings their songs to audiences night after night.
Let It Be Your Guidegathers together a coterie of “Wheatheads” to wax thoughtfully on the deepcatalogue this band possesses. Each of the band’s 15 studio albums are explored thoroughly, with space also given to their many live albums, and compilations.
BOOK FEATURES:
An interview with Kansas cover artist Denise De la Cerda, who painted the artwork for The Prelude Implicit (2016), The Absence of Presence (2020) and the Kansas’ 50th Anniversary Poster!
Foreword by Jeff Wagner, who was the Product Manager at InsideOut music when they signed Kansas in 2014!
Insightful contributions from no less than 30 Kansas Super Fans!
Over 250 pages and many B&W photos from Tim Durling’s personal collection, including 8-tracks, records, cassettes, CDs, tickets and more!
Join us for the talk, and support Tim by buying the book at the Amazon link above!
Friday July 5 at 4:00 P.M. E.S.T. / 5:00 P.M. Atlantic. Enjoy onYouTube or on Facebook!
Special Edition Episode: Tim Durling’s Guide to Kansas Compilations
Folks, we have a great live episode of Grab A Stack of Rock coming up this Friday. Yes, today’s mini-episode is essentially a teaser to another episode, but it’s is also a great standalone in its own right. Thank you Tim Durling for sharing some of your collection with us today.
For this instalment, Tim Durling, author of the new book Let It Be Your Guide – The Kansas Album Review (buy in the link), guides us through the essential Kansas compilations if you are new to the band. Starting with the original 1984 best-of and its variants, we go through the decades to the present day. Compilations vary in size and scope. From single discs, to doubles and even a triple, Tim has a Kansas recommendation for every appetite. Perhaps you’re just looking for the classic era up to 1984. Or, maybe you need representation for the Steve Morse years of the late 1980s for your Kansas listening. If you’re really going for it, you may as well pick one that covers the whole career.
Check out what Tim has on offer to get your Kansas collection started. And, of course, check out Friday’s show when we go into the book in detail!
RECORD STORE TALES #1114: Music Groups / Party Poopers
They say it’s not about size, but I do have a pretty big music collection. I guesstimate at around 6000 CDs at present. Because my goal in collecting music is to acquire physical copies of “all the official tracks” by the bands I like, I do have a lot of rare discs in my collection. Primarily, Japanese imports with bonus tracks. I don’t go out of my way to buy multiple copies on multiple formats (though I still do) and I don’t shell out big bucks for anything if I already have all the tunes. I don’t buy cassette reissues, I don’t worry about vinyl variants. I just want a physical copy of “all the official tracks”, be they remixes, live, or whatever.
Because I have so many rare CDs, twice in 2022, Tim Durling asked me to guest on his show Tim’s Vinyl Confessions. We did two episodes on rare CDs (#351 and #390). I showed off a number of my imports, but because my music is so scattered around the house (a whole other story), I missed a few. Some I didn’t even think of. I mean, I could have grabbed every Japanese import in my house, but instead I grabbed a few dozen of the closest ones with obi strip intact. They just look cooler that way.
Fast forward a year to summer of 2023. While relaxing one Saturday afternoon at the cottage, I was ambushed by Tim and John the Music Nut, as they tried to coerce me into buying some Y&T CDs. Their methods worked, and I ordered Black Tiger, UnEarthed Vol. 1, and the DVD On With the Show. However, Tim was flabbergasted when the subject of “Go For the Throat” came up. “You need the 2006 reissue of In Rock We Trust,” cautioned Tim, “because, aside from the Hear N’ Aid CD, it’s the only place you can get that track on CD.”
“I have Hear N’ Aid on CD,” I responded.
“WHAT?” Tim was absolutely floored, flabbergasted, and perhaps a little betrayed that I had never brought this fact up before.
Hear N’ Aid, of course, was a project produced by Ronnie James Dio in 1986 to raise funds for famine relief in Africa. It was released on cassette and LP, with a 7″ and 12″ single too. There was a documentary on VHS, and sources report there was even a very rare CD single in Japan (found on a Japanese music auction site). In 1986, there was no compact disc release.
This changed in 1994 when a limited Japanese CD was released overseas. It was deleted again shortly after.
“Mike…that has to be one of the rarest CDs you own! Why didn’t you show it off on my show when we did rare CDs?”
The Music Nut concurred that it was very hard to find on CD. It didn’t occur to me. I acquired it for about $15 many years before, from “Gum Chewin’ Conrad”, a customer of mine at the Record Store who always sold Japanese imports (no obi, unfortunately). I also had a cassette (in a Thunder Bay landfill now) and vinyl, but the CD was the only thing they cared about. A few days later I posted about it on Facebook, and Reed Little from the Contrarians immediately jumped into the comments, remarking on my rare treasure.
There must be some issue with record labels and estates, considering the artists involved. The Hendrix estate is already a tangled affair, and there was a Jimi song on the album (“Can You See Me”). The album also contains rare live Kiss, Scorpions, Accept, Dio, Rush and Motorhead. The song “Stars” recorded by the supergroup Hear N’ Aid, had members of Motley Crue, Dokken, Journey, Dio, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Blue Oyster Cult, Queensryche, Night Ranger, W.A.S.P., Y&T, and solo artists such as Ted Nugent and Yngwie J. Malmsteen. Even Spinal Tap were involved. You can imagine, this must be why Wendy Dio has struggled so long trying to reissue the album.
In recent months, I began dipping my toes into the murky world of Facebook discussion groups. The best, by far, is Jamie Laszlo’s Let’s Get Physical. I enjoy the Rock Candy Magazine group. I also joined a couple Facebook CD collector groups. The experience was, to say the least, mixed.
I discovered one property that I will declare as an axiom: there is always a party pooper in any Facebook music discussion group.
Disclaimer: When I collect, I don’t care so much about value. I care how much I spend for music I want, but not resale value. I am also not an audiophile and tend not to get along well with diehard audiophiles.
I decided to post my Hear N’ Aid CD in the Rock Candy music group and see what the reaction was. My caption was “Some folks say this is the rarest CD that I own,” which is 100% true. Folks do say that.
There were over 500 reactions, and only two negative comments. Negative comments, sadly, are as constant as the north star.
“It’s not that rare,” said the first Negative Nancy. “There are copies on Discogs right now for as low as $50, and there are 17 copies available.”
Thanks. Go buy one, then.
The other Negative Nancy wasn’t happy with the sound quality on the CD. He complained there’s a low hum throughout the disc. He showed me some kind of graph. I told him I was very happy with my disc, and I enjoyed listening to the music and never noticed a hum. He told me I never really listened.
I get it, everybody wants to say their two cents. Most people were very cool and posted pictures from their own collections. From about 500 reactions, there were about 10 to 15 people who owned the album on CD. Most had vinyl, cassette, the single, or a VHS tape.
I left one CD collector group immediately, when all the comments were either focused on value or sound quality. I stayed in another group, despite two weird comments.
“Crappy pic…more disc, less face next time,” said one guy who couldn’t read the title and never heard of the zoom feature.
“This CD is mastered from the LP,” said another guy who had no evidence for his claim. “Wendy Dio doesn’t own the masters and the reissue will also be taken from vinyl,” he insisted.
Weird folks in some of those music groups, I’ll tell you. The audiophiles reminded me of dealing with those types in my Record Store days. Guys who could hear things I never could, and get angry because I couldn’t. Music collectors are by and large an amicable group of nerds, but there’s always one or two ready to rain on your parade.
Happy birthday to Jonathan Cain of JOURNEY, as we celebrate his discography today with Tim Durling on this very special episode of Grab A Stack of Rock! We look back at the entire discography of the legendary rock band, all the lineup changes, all the big songs, and a bunch of deep cuts as well. On six different formats, I show you the entire catalogue, with help from Tim to fill three holes in the official collection. (There’s still one or two essential things I need to get, but you’ll have to watch the video to find out.)
Tim Durling is what I would call a “Journey expert”. He knows the facts and the sales numbers and the singles, and he was essential in this video coming to be. Not just the live albums I’m still missing, but also the knowledge and personal history. I was late getting into the band, in the late 1990s. Tim had 10 years on me. Thank you Tim for helping me make this video!
Together we presented CDs, cassettes, vinyl, 8-tracks, Blu-rays and DVDs of all the essential Journey. We looked at imports from Japan, Europe, the US, and Mexico as well as different pressings with different bonus tracks. A wide variety of Journey CD editions are here for you to examine.
Thank you Tim and thank you Journey for the music!
Discography included:
Journey (1975)
Look Into the Future (1976)
Next (1977)
Infinity (1978)
Evolution (1979)
In The Beginning (1979)
Departure (1980)
Dream, After Dream (1980)
Captured (1981)
Escape (1981)
Frontiers (1983 and 2023 40th Anniversary editions)
Raised on Radio (1986)
Greatest Hits (1988)
Time3 (1992 boxed set)
Trial By Fire (1996)
Greatest Hits Live (1998)
Arrival (2000-2001)
The Essential Journey (2001)
Red 13 (2002)
Generations (2005)
Live In Houston 1981: The Escape Tour (2005)
Turn the Page (Live Bootleg w/ Jeff Scott Soto (2006)