“I agree that most cassettes and decks were crap, but the high end ones such as Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox, Luxman etc. sound awesome and make great recordings. The other thing is you can get decent audiophile quality cassette players for a good price, and the cassettes are cheap.” – Boppin, August 13 2015
I recently purchased a couple cassettes from Drew Masters of M.E.A.T Magazine, from a band he was involved with at the time. A band I like a lot called Russian Blue. It’s a demo they recorded at Cherry Beach Sound studio in Toronto in November of 1991.
Even on my Technics RS-TR272 tape deck that badly needs a servicing, I can hear that it’s the best cassette I’ve ever played.
It’s loud. Much louder than any other cassettes. And it’s clear. Barely any hiss even on this machine. The dead spots between songs are quiet. I’ve never heard a tape like it.
The reasons for this are two-fold. One is that the cassette is a Sony Metal-SR 100, Type IV. Not top of the line but not a bad tape at all.
Second is that this tape comes direct from the desk of Cherry Beach Sound, a professional recording studio. Noise reduction set to “B”. Their recorders are far better than anything I’ve had access to in my life, and certainly superior to the stuff they make mass-produced commercial tapes with.
What can I say? Bop was right all along. Cassettes don’t have to sound like shit. I’ve been schooled.
I’ll personally never be able to get past the finite life of a cassette or an LP. CD will always be my choice.
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I’m sure Bop will comment about that!
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He won’t be able to change my mind. I hate to think that every time I use something it gets closer to death and worse in quality. The only thing that should make me re-buy an album is bonus tracks/discs.
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I play them once. Rip em to PC. Never a problem.
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Then what’s the point of having them? The art is tiny.
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Lol this cassette doesn’t even have art! It’s the same as anything we collect. Why? Because it’s fucking cool! This is a tape that went right from the mixing desk 30 years ago into my hands. The tape that my original commercial copy was dubbed from. Has the studio clerk’s writing on it. Once belonged to the band. Why collect anything at all if not history?
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I was talking more about cassettes in general. Yes, historic ones are good to have because of the history, but since the beginning of these comments I’ve been referring to the format itself rather than any one cassette.
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I don’t collect cassettes. Lol.
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Nor do I, for the reasons stated at the very top.
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Lol I think the coolness of this post has been lost. Hopefully Bop shows up to restore sanity!
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Sorry. That wasn’t my intention.
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Lol it’s like the ghost of Holen still haunts the comments, dragging them off topic! Thankfully not “blue” though.
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It was still about cassettes, just a little negative-ish. But yes, you’ll never get that out of me, 99% of the time.
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I just wanna be clear — mass produced tapes are not what I’m talking about. This is a very special very awesome sounding tape from a recording studio. It’s like nothing you can buy in a store. I was lucky that Drew was selling his collection. He had a lot more but I could only afford this. I wish I could afford the rest as it would be the best sounding versions of those bands I’ve ever heard. This is from 1991 and these songs have never been released on any format other than tape. I’m lucky to have a tape that sounds almost as good as a CD.
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Indeed you are. But it is most definitely one of the exceptions to the rule.
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I posted about the rule twice already so that dead horse has been beaten. Now it’s time to appreciate Bop and some very special tapes.
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Fair enough. Who would I be to deliberately stand between someone and enjoying something? Appreciate away.
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Bop deserves some praise! I ragged on him for years about cassettes.
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I have records from the 1950’s, reel to reel from 1960’s and cassettes from the 70’s that sound wicked. They may have a finite life, but if looked after they will outlive my life, plus they are analog and awesome.
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Here’s a technical question. How much damage, if any, did I do by playing this tape on my deck?
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My suggestion is do some routine service to your deck.
It’s as simple as getting q tips and rubbing alcohol and clean the heads. Youtube should have some tutorials. Then if you want to go all out get a head demagnitizer
One time should be fine though.
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Perfect thanks!
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It’s just the thought that with every listen it gets worn down or stretched out a little (no matter how small) that makes me feel icky. CDs offer peace of mind. Plus they’re easier to rip to a hard drive.
I personally dislike analogue. Every LP I’ve heard gives me a weird feeling. There’s something about it that doesn’t feel right. I like the crystal clear and sterile clarity of a CD.
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Wait until you hear about CD rot!
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But that isn’t a forgone conclusion as far as I know. And it isn’t something that happens bit by bit with each successive listen.
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Mike is buying q tips to clean his head. Perhaps you may do the same for your ears.
;)
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I don’t know if i can buy cassettes other than to maybe buy the Kiss ones just so I have any version of an album I can find. Outside of that, no reason to get them as I’ll stick with the LPs and CDs and heck even streaming.
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If you heard a tape from an actual mixing desk, I think that would change your mind. This thing sounds incredible.
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But then all the tapes I buy would have to be from that source.
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If you get a chance, don’t pass one up. I got very lucky since Drew was their manager.
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Any enthusiast with a quality 3 head deck and higher end tape(type 2 or better) can make a great recording that sounds better than store bought cassettes (that record companies used the cheapest cassettes to record on to for cost savings).
The one you have Mike is straight from the board, but had to be recorded on to a cassette. The deck they used to record it is the key. Not the source.
Cherry Beach is still in business and I went on their equipment list. No mention of cassette. Not surprising.
Actually in 1991 DAT was all the rage so surprising this is on cassette.
More than likely they had a high end 3 head deck
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Maybe Russian Blue couldn’t have afforded DAT back then?
Thanks for all this info. Really appreciated. VINDICATION MAN!
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Or the demo was recorded to DAT then transferred to cassette, I’m not vindicated, we’re back to where we started and Harrison is happy.
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I only knew 1 guy back in the day that had a DAT player. Russian Blue probably could not afford one.
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I know you are on a sabbatical Mike, but if you ever have John’s brother-in-law back, I would love a debate with him about pros and cons of digital and analog. Newer vinyl recordings sourced from digital. How the recording process has changed through the years etc.
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Actually I’ll be coming back Sept 24 and maybe a trial run before then. Another show with Ryan Williams is a definite possibility!
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They should have made all cassettes that good, especially with the bad luck I had with them back in the day.
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Yes they should have. I would have paid more for a good sounding, longer lasting tape.
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I’ll never understand the cassette world lol!
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LOL well before CDs, they were portable and cheap. It was all we had. But the cassette craze NOW? That I don’t get, now that we have so many superior portable formats.
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Probably for the vintage vibe. Isn’t that why vinyl became popular again?
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Yeah I think so. Kevin might be the better guy to ask — he’s way more into vinyl than me. Were you watching the one time he referred to CDs as “toys”?
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That depends on which episode that was. Kevin hasn’t been posting much, so I haven’t heard from him in a while.
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It was a recent one with Sarah. She was holding up a CD and he said “Oh put that toy away”.
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Oh, I think I saw that one.
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I know Kevin did agree to come back and interview Max the Axe with me in the fall. His new CD is out and we’ll be discussing.
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Ah, Max the Axe has a new CD, good for him! By the way, you mentioned that the ZZ Top re-run was a disaster, what happened? If you don’t mind me asking.
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Well it went OK for 10 minutes and then the video froze! I struggled with it but couldn’t fix it so I had to drop the idea.
But Meat and I have been working on some new ideas and if you stay tuned, there might be a test run of that happening very soon.
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Sorry to hear the re-run didn’t work out, but I’m looking forward to see what’s in store for the LeBrain Train. I hope your break is going well too!
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Break is going great, thanks for asking! I needed to get to a point where I look forward to doing the show again, and I think with Uncle Meat’s help, and some assistance from Tee Bone and Harrison, I’m getting there.
In fact, if you go on Instagram…I may already have posted a teaser.
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That’s good. So you’ve been relaxing and all that good stuff?
The lists go to five now? Also, did you change the color of the Lebrain Train logo?
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Relaxing a little but mostly trying to do more listening and writing. That has been working out very well.
Yes and yes. At least, we’re going to try it. Harrison is skeptical about lists of five, but we need to try something new that can get the show under two hours again. I can’t do three every week anymore.
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Oh yes, I’ve noticed you’ve been writing more posts recently. And i’m guessing a lot of Disney+?
I think lists of five would be a good challenge. Since it was hard for you guys to put together lists of 11, five would be even harder to do.
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Yes exactly, that was Harrison’s concern. However I’ve been discussing a lot with the Uncle of Meats and we have to give this a try!
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Yeah, I think that’s a great idea because 1) you won’t have to edit 3 hour long shows anymore, 2) the lists would be more challenging, insightful, and fun (hopefully), and 3) it’ll give you guys more time to chat if the lists are shorter.
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Good ol MEAT Magazine! They were always promoting and plugging local talent. Miss those days..
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Cassettes are so hot right now. ;)
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